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"Authors!" he said in disgust ...

  • Apr. 23rd, 2008 at 9:52 AM

 No, not really.  Most of you guys are great.  Every once in a while though ...

An author queried Realms of Fantasy with a question.  When he didn't receive the answer he wanted, he proceeded to tell me what was wrong with the magazine, and complained we were too fussy.  My answer?  "You shouldn't argue with the policies of a magazine's editors, no matter how fussy you think we are.  All it does is make us fussier."  To illustrate my point, I told him to scratch us from his list of potential markets.

*Throws back head and raises fists to the heavens*  "The power!  The power!"

:)  

Comments

[info]tlmorganfield wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 01:58 pm (UTC)
Are you feeding the trolls, Doug? ;)
[info]temporus wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 02:20 pm (UTC)
*facepalm*
[info]dungeonwriter wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 02:24 pm (UTC)
I am suddenly...very scared and worshipful of you.
[info]mela_lyn wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 02:38 pm (UTC)
Note to self: Cower and agree to everything the editor says... Check.

Greetings, oh great and powerful Oz! Err... Slushmaster!
[info]sventhelost wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 02:39 pm (UTC)
/cowers in mortal dread
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 02:54 pm (UTC)
In three years, I think I've banned all of three people from submitting, so this doesn't happen often.
[info]wikdsushi wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 03:44 pm (UTC)
Muahaha! Isn't that feeling of absolute power great? Now if we could only find a more potent outlet than trolls (and idiot neighbour kids who won't stop ringing our doorbells).
[info]e_underwood wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 04:08 pm (UTC)
Funny. I was wondering why the sky grew suddenly dark over New Jersey. However, when the lightening and thunder began to fill the sky, I had a feeling you might be involved. ;-) Muahahahhaa!

[info]dqg_neal wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 04:09 pm (UTC)
Look on the bright side.. it leaves more space and for those of us that follow the rules.
[info]samhenderson wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 04:23 pm (UTC)
Why do people do this?
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 04:46 pm (UTC)
I'll provide you a Letterman's Top 10 to your question:

10) They think they're being helpful
9) They're trolls
8) They know for certain they're the next J.K. Rowling, so who gives a shit what some assistant editor thinks?
7) They clicked "Send" accidentally
6) If they can't write their way into publication they'll argue their way in
5) Not enough years of bitter frustration to start drinking yet
4) How dare you tell me no. Do you know who I am?
3) I've spent the last 5 years working on this story. You have to give me my way!
2)I was drunk
1) And the number one reason authors do this: THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER!
[info]samhenderson wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 04:53 pm (UTC)
Latte. Out. My. Nose. Ow.
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 05:06 pm (UTC)
Which one did it? I'm guessing # 2!
[info]samhenderson wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 05:11 pm (UTC)
2,4,5 and 7.
It's funny because it's true.
[info]hedge_labyrinth wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 04:43 pm (UTC)
Oh, that guy! He's complaining about it over at SFReader forums. The audacity that the editor would make the rules!
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 04:47 pm (UTC)
Is he? Pardon me a moment ...
[info]samhenderson wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 04:54 pm (UTC)
(gets popcorn)
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 05:20 pm (UTC)
The popcorn is going cold, I'm afraid. I can't find the complaint, and I've wasted enough time already. Maybe next time ...
[info]jlapp wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 05:31 pm (UTC)
voila
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 23rd, 2008 05:51 pm (UTC)
Re: voila
I followed the link, thanks. I also toyed with deleting your post, because in situations like these, I tend to refrain from divulging the author's identity. The link gives some of that away. But if the guy doesn't care as he says in his posts, why should I?

As to the back and forth ...shrug. I'll let people make their own decisions about who was the jerk. I made a post that boiled it down to the bare essentials (as I saw them). He gave more of the details (but still edited them, I might add).

It is what is. I am sympathetic to the plight of international mailings, but I don't make the rules at ROF, nor do I have the power to change them. Holding me accountable gets you nowhere. And for the record, I do prefer to read off the page. Not only is it less tiring on the eyes, but I like the tactile pleasure of turning the page to learn what will happen next. It's a far more engaging experience. Cost aside, I'd think most authors would want editors to consider their work in the manner in which they're the most comfortable.
[info]rhfay wrote:
Apr. 24th, 2008 02:56 pm (UTC)
I've been following this on SFReader, and my response was basically - I wouldn't have sent the e-mail about this issue to begin with. Editors have the right to make their own policies regarding submissions. If a contributor doesn't like them, they can go elsewhere.

It seems like a lot of effort over a rather small issue, when you compare it to all the other, more serious problems prevelant in today's world.
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 24th, 2008 03:16 pm (UTC)
I agree, but to each his own, I suppose.
[info]seantmstiennon wrote:
Apr. 25th, 2008 10:03 pm (UTC)
If you don't want to discuss the issue, just don't answer e-mails. . .banning someone--someone, I might add, who wasn't planning to submit in the first place--is just outright petty.
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 25th, 2008 10:21 pm (UTC)
The key word here is "discuss." After I told him our policy and I received his follow-up email, I didn't feel the author was interested in discussing anything at that point, not based on his language anyway. It seemed to me he was venting and antagonizing me. And as an editor, it is absolutely my right to tell an author I feel is being unduly difficult that he is no longer welcome to submit to the magazine I work at. Being as I CC'd that email to the editor and wasn't reprimanded, Shawna obviously had no problem with my decision.

Second, he was planning on submitting to us in the first place, assuming our answer suited his purposes. Otherwise he never would've emailed us to begin with. What I ended up doing was telling him that if he had a change of heart about snail-mailing us in the future, his manuscript was no longer welcome at our publication.

Lastly, if you want to talk about "petty," most bloggers will tell you that trolling falls into this category.
[info]artemisin wrote:
May. 12th, 2008 01:23 pm (UTC)
Sigh, writercentrics bore me. I'm betting this guy thinks RoF exists solely as a market for his novellas.

How many people go to the Baker's and demand they open an hour earlier/on Sundays/on Christmas??? We let other people have their own business models; why are magazines any different? I'm betting there's a bit of the S&SF fan mentality coming through. People don't think of mags as businesses, but as a nexus to a community that they own.

It's great that we're all fans of the genre, but really, do these fans all have to be, like, thirteen?

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