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I Want to Explode (a Myth)

  • Apr. 24th, 2008 at 11:49 AM

 I want to blog a bit about slush.  Big surprise, right?  Seems there's always something to say on the matter.  Like today, for instance.  While perusing a forum, I came across a statement that ...well ...made me want to blog.  The poster didn't single out any markets, but in reference to the short story markets, he claimed that for markets demanding you go the IRC route from abroad, the truth of the matter is that a good many of these markets receive 99% of their material from writers they already know or who are commissioned or on spec.

Naturally this got my slush hackles up (picture sheets of fantasy manuscripts, rippling along my spine in the breeze).  I've posted slush statistics before (and here) If you crunch the numbers, maybe the top 1% or so of all the slush gets accepted for publication.  But the accepted material overall?  I'm afraid the % is much higher.  IMNSHO, this is a major distinction.  Also, define writers these markets "already know."  I knew 4 of my slush survivors (though only 1 in person) before they were accepted by us (and for every slush survivor I've known, I've rejected at least 50 times that number I've also known, so no cries of favortism please).  And just because a writer has published a novel with a major house like Tor, Bantam Spectra, etc., it does not mean we've heard of you.  There are a lot of novels published every year.  We can't keep track of everyone.  That's why cover letters are sometimes helpful.  So if we take a story from these people, where do they fit in regards to that 99%?

Now granted, this is all in regards to Realms of Fantasy.  But do you imagine it's like this with just this magazine?  And as to "commissioned and on spec," these are far from uniform practices among magazines when it comes to fiction.  Many mags rarely go these routes, especially after they've established themselves.  Magazine editors like finding slush survivors.  We like choosing stories according to our tastes.  On spec or commission has its place, and more than that depending on your business model.  But grouping a bunch of (unnamed) mags as part of that aforementioned 99%?  Come on.  Off the top of my head I can think of just a few established genre mags that are strictly or mostly commissioned or on spec with their fiction on anything resembling a regular basis. 

Sometimes I wonder where people get their information. 

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[info]rhfay wrote:
Apr. 24th, 2008 04:40 pm (UTC)
Thanks for "exploding the myth". Interesting info.
[info]endelarin wrote:
Apr. 24th, 2008 04:51 pm (UTC)
They get their information from the nebulous but powerful god of A Little Knowledge. Any knowledge this god dispenses is incomplete and half-baked, yet its followers are legion. Very dangerous, but usually merely annoying.

If you stop to think about it, most accepted stories are far more likely to come from someone with a track record simply because people don't stop submitting after they've sold only one story. Indeed, they keep trying. After a while, it's hardly surprising some should fall under the category of being "known" to the editors. Known for what might well be the more pertinent question.
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 24th, 2008 04:52 pm (UTC)
I hate that god! :)
[info]agilebrit wrote:
Apr. 24th, 2008 05:13 pm (UTC)
They pull it from their nether regions. And of course from the Kingdom of Everyone Knows.
[info]ogre_san wrote:
Apr. 24th, 2008 05:49 pm (UTC)
I'm a little confused. The writer seems to be using "on spec" to mean the same as "commissioned," and in my understanding they are very different things.
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 24th, 2008 05:55 pm (UTC)
Well, he used both words right on top of each other, but didn't elaborate. I therefore grouped them together in my rebuttal, since my point toward both was pretty much the same. That may be the source of the confusion, and if so I apologize. I could provide you the link to the original post if you like.

I think I'll tinker with the post a tiny bit though, just to clear up any confusion caused from my end ...
[info]e_underwood wrote:
Apr. 24th, 2008 07:11 pm (UTC)
Was he getting confused with non-fiction markets? I know they generally don't like receiving unsolicited mss. You usually have to querie and if they like the idea they will tell you to write the article and submit it with no guarantee of getting it published.
[info]douglascohen wrote:
Apr. 24th, 2008 07:53 pm (UTC)
I don't think so. The bulk of the thread was dealing with subbing to fiction markets.
[info]barbarienne wrote:
Apr. 25th, 2008 03:16 am (UTC)
As the slush survivor who you knew before the story was accepted, I wish to point out that you had previously rejected a story of mine... when yes, you already knew me.

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