I'm going to pass on it, but I have to say your writing is very smooth these days. In fact, up to page 14 I thought there was a good chance I might be buying this one. But then the piece veered off and though the writing was still smooth, the story itself wasn't working for me.
I'm pretty much past the point where I get excited over personal rejections. I've gotten the "almost" rejection, the "try us again" rejection, the Gordon Van Gelder "alas (plus feedback)" rejection, and even the "requested rewrite but still got rejected" rejection. Been there and done that. And while I know how busy editors are and always appreciate any feedback they care to give, the "moral victory" of a personal rejection doesn't get me too excited either.
This one mattered though. Why? Because he called my writing "very smooth." Style has been one of my biggest bugaboos. Before I took the Odyssey Workshop back in 2000, I was a complete rookie. My style was weak, plain(-jane), uninspired, sloppy, etc. After Odyssey I went in the opposite direction. I ended up trying too hard, and went through a very frustrating phase during which my writing became over-stylized, i.e. the dreaded purple prose. I attended Orson Scott Card's workshop a year later and he called me out on this. And that began the long journey toward achieve clear effective writing.
OSC is a big proponent of clear writing, and one of the biggest reasons he dubbed Edmund to be the editor over at IGMS is that he was he confident Edmund would select strong stories that reflected his own tastes. So to have Edmund call my writing smooth means a lot. I have by no means conquered style, and am not even close to satsfied with where my style is, but it's good to know I'm noticeably improving. It's been a battle to get to this point, and the fact that I appreciate lush prose (ala George Martin, Robert. E. Howard, Clark Ashton Smith, and Dan Simmons to name a few) and unusual imagery (see the names I just mentioned) probably made it all the harder to get here. Both of these things can easily contribute to overwriting, I think. There has been a lot of stuggle involved to achieve a sort of balance.
So while it's not an acceptance, it's an important step in my writing career. Now if I could just get some editor to tell me my plotting is flawless ...
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If you live outside the U.S., how do snail-mail vs. email submisions impact your personal submission habits?
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Some stuff to keep in mind:
--I've published in Interzone, a highly respected magazine in the UK. I originally sent the submisison via snail-mail, then later email (long convoluted story why). It's not the same as living in Australia or the UK, but it's something. One reason I get along so well with most authors is because I know how you guys think. I am you guys, but I'm also working at ROF. And the writer in me understands that blogging about this will help me the editor in me understand the international auhthors' stance here a bit better.
--Please remember I don't have to blog about this at all. But I'm interested in hearing your views. Not just because some guy from Australia was annoyed. No one person would make me spend this much time on the issue. But after working three years at the magazine, you notice stuff. I'm sure this conversation would've happened sooner or later.
--To people this hans't occurred to, please remember it isn't just about what the writers want. That's so easy to forget, because there are a lot more writers than their are editors and publishers, but editors & publishers are just as crucial to the success of a magazine. If a certain method works best for them, that is crucial to the process, even if it seems unfair or antiquated. Publishing isn't a democracy That may seem like a harsh thing to say, but it's also the truth. Places that have gone the email route have done so because the publishers and editors decided it was in their best interests. It may have made writers happy, but it wasn't why they did it. Magazines sticking to postal subs are also doing what they consider best too. They have that right. Just because email is faster and more cost effective for writers, it doesn't mean it's the best route for every single magazine in regards to our submission policies. We're not all the same=different process=different policies. I know a lot of you understand that, but clearly some people don't. Or won't.
--Remember that editors have to read all the time. How an editor likes to read matters a whole lot. A WHOLE LOT.
Just some stuff to think about.
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And once again for the record ...
While I didn't make the rule, I do happen to prefer reading off the page. Not only do I find it easier on the eyes over a long stretch of time, but the tactile pleasure of turning the page to learn happens next tends to make it a more engaging reading experience for me. It doesn't mean I can't enjoy reading off the screen, but it's probably a good thing for most writers I'm considering your manuscripts in the manner I'm most comfortable with, don't you think?
Edit: Why is LJ putting my post beneath the poll? That's never happened before.
Someone did some extrapolations based on those numbers, and while most of them looked right to me, one of them made me crinkle my brow enough that I went back and checked my personal records. I'm uncertain how the guy crunched his numbers (or if maybe he meant something else by his post, or misunderstood one of my figures, which would mess with his figures), but they stated that only slightly over 17% of all automatic passes to ROF got rejected. I'm assuming this figure is based on totals extrapolated from both years, but again, I don't know what formula made him reach this figure.
Regardless, the % is quite off. I'd like to address this ASAP, as our community is small and information travels fast. Based on my records, which have logged every automatic pass since I've been with ROF, if I factor in every story I know Shawna has come to a decision on, 80 out of 365 automatic passes have been or are slated to be published. That means 285 out of 365 failed to be accepted for publication. Break it down and that's 57 out of every 73 automatic passes that has been rejected. Granted, my personal records are more up to date and are accounting for almost another whole year of submissions to the magazine, but that's a signifcant difference in the percentages. If I toss out the most recent year, the % would fluctuate a few points at most, I think. If we rejected just 17% of our automatic passes, we'd be so overstocked with stories we'd have to close to submissions for ...for ...well, I'm not going to do that math. :)
And before people do further extrapolations and post more figures, we've received more submissions than 365 these past three years that have been automatically passed along to Shawna (or will be, since my official anniversary isn't until May 10th). These are just the ones she's reached her decision about and has informed me.
Naturally this got my slush hackles up (picture sheets of fantasy manuscripts, rippling along my spine in the breeze). I've posted slush statistics before (and here) If you crunch the numbers, maybe the top 1% or so of all the slush gets accepted for publication. But the accepted material overall? I'm afraid the % is much higher. IMNSHO, this is a major distinction. Also, define writers these markets "already know." I knew 4 of my slush survivors (though only 1 in person) before they were accepted by us (and for every slush survivor I've known, I've rejected at least 50 times that number I've also known, so no cries of favortism please). And just because a writer has published a novel with a major house like Tor, Bantam Spectra, etc., it does not mean we've heard of you. There are a lot of novels published every year. We can't keep track of everyone. That's why cover letters are sometimes helpful. So if we take a story from these people, where do they fit in regards to that 99%?
Now granted, this is all in regards to Realms of Fantasy. But do you imagine it's like this with just this magazine? And as to "commissioned and on spec," these are far from uniform practices among magazines when it comes to fiction. Many mags rarely go these routes, especially after they've established themselves. Magazine editors like finding slush survivors. We like choosing stories according to our tastes. On spec or commission has its place, and more than that depending on your business model. But grouping a bunch of (unnamed) mags as part of that aforementioned 99%? Come on. Off the top of my head I can think of just a few established genre mags that are strictly or mostly commissioned or on spec with their fiction on anything resembling a regular basis.
Sometimes I wonder where people get their information.
As per my reply to Dandyfunk's comment under my post concerning Brand Writing, I'm changing the term from Brand Writing to Borg Writing. Thanks again, Daddyfunk!
If any other editors (or heck, anyone for that matter) would like to comment on this, I'd love to hear your thoughts. After almost three years at Realms of Fantasy, I've noticed something in the piles that (for the moment) I'm terming as brand writing. By brand writing, I'm referring to work I recognize as being of a certain sort. Before I go any further let me state that by no means is this a hard and fast rule. That said, it crops up a lot.
The "it" in question deals with the writers' authorial backgrounds. Some stories are written in such a way that I can tell they've been workshopped (and sometimes I can recognize what workshop). Others are written in a way that makes it abundantly obvious this author's natural playground isn't fantasy, but writing novels in the [blank]* genre. There is also one magazine I can think where a lot of its regular contributors all seem to write in a very similar manner. All these areas share the common theme of having a certain feel, or brand to them. I know certain individual authors can be instantly recognized by the way they write, but what I'm talking about here is somewhat different.
Have any other editorial types out there encountered this?
*I am being intentionally vague because I imagine these sorts of topics can be sore spots with some people. I mean no offense, but here in the blogosphere people get into twists over all sorts of stuff. So better to keep things vague ...
- Mood:
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1) If you like to blog, blog. There's nothing wrong with using this as a constructive outlet, so long as you don't let it rule you, as some people clearly do.
2) If you post infrequently, you don't have much to worry about.
3) If you keep your posts short, you don't have much to worry about. As a general rule, most of my posts are short. The big exception is when I post another edition of my ROF Retrospectives. Those take time. That said, I like doing them and I'm not about to stop (I've come too far!) But if I'm going to be fair about this and take Hobb's essay to heart, then I realize I should post these retrospectives when I have extra time, i.e. after I've already completed my fiction writing for the day. So that is the way it shall be from now on.
4) Just because someone friends you, remember you don't have to friend them back. I have 261 friends on my LJ account. If I friended everyone back and read all their posts, I wouldn't get anything done. Don't feel guilty over not friending people back. Do what's best for you.
5) You don't have to read every post that your friends put up. Seriously. I skim or skip so much of what I come across. I read what interests me. Basically, I take an editorial approach here. If you don't keep my interest, I move on to the next piece of slush (er, blog).
6) Don't blog just for the sake of blogging. These are times you can be writing instead.
7) Ask yourself what the point is of keeping your blog. Personally, I like to use my blog to meet other people in the industry, and to get my name out there, i.e. use it as a marketing tool. So I tend to keep these things in mind when I blog. You'll note that about 95% of what I blog about has to do with writing or editing/Realms of Fantasy, or news related to these things. The other 5% usually falls into the realm of books I've recently read, movies I've recently seen, or the occasional blog post about blogging (like the post in question). I make it a rule to never veer from these topics. It lets my readers know what to expect when they visit my blog, and keeps me from wasting time blogging about the unnecessaries.
8) If most of your blog posts go on this long (and besides the ROF Retrospectives mine rarely do) and you're not making $$$ from blogging, then Robin Hobb's rant probably applies to you.
9) Discounting the ROF Restrospectives, I rarely spend more than a half hour each day in the blogosphere. This includes time spent posting, as well as time spent reading and responding to other people's blogs.
10) Keep this stuff in mind and it should help keep your blogging habits under control. :)
And then you feel like a lightbulb has gone off in your brain, because the word "discipline" is taking on a whole new meaning ...
But in this latest batch of stories I'm slushing through, I found myself in this exact situation. I came across a story that I knew I was going to pass along, but there was one spot I still wanted to offer a suggestion. The thing is, the spot in question was (cue drums) a sex scene. I once worked with an author on the events leading up to a sex scene (an incestuous one, too!), but I'd never offered my thoughts on an actual sex scene, so this was new territory (spare me the puns, please). And it wasn't a bad sex scene. In fact, it was quite good. But I saw the potential to add an additional layer of depth to the story, and really wanted to offer the suggestion, even if the author discarded it.
But when I sat down to write the author, I realized what an odd situation this was. We've never met or had any contact previously, and now out of the blue I wanted to contact her and offer my thoughts on her sex scene. Sheesh. If I was an editor of erotica or romance I'd doubt I'd have even batted an eye--sex scenes come with the territory, and I think most authors would take such critiques in stride. But in the Realms of Fantasy slush, I don't come across many sex scenes (or maybe I dish out all my rejections before I get to the steamy parts), so the situation stuck out to me like a soar thumb. If this was for a critique group I don't think this would strike me as a big deal, but this was editor to author for a professional magazine, first contact (no puns!), and the only part of the story I wanted to offer a suggestion for was the sex scene. To be honest, I don't think I would've concerned myself over this if the story came from a guy. But with a woman ...well, the bottom line is I didn't want to come off a pervert.
So I could've left well enough alone. As I said, this story was already good enough to pass along, and it already had a legitimate shot at publication with us (IMO). But if I left well enough alone, I wouldn't be doing my job. And that didn't sit right with me. So I contacted the author (whose identity shall be protected), made my suggestion, and yes, I did point that I've never been in this situation before and was treading carefully ...
And her reply:
That is a very interesting idea. I hadn't thought of it and it would definitely add depth to the scene and highlight the nature of what's going on between them. I'll play around with it in the next couple days to see if I can make it work.
Even if she decides not to use my suggestion (fingers crossed that she does), I'm glad I offered it. And I'm glad that she received my critique in the spirit in which it was intended, i.e. with an eye toward enriching an already powerful story. Until I was faced with this situation, it was never something I imagined myself dealing with, probably because of the dearth of sex scenes in the slush. But I'm happy to say I've successfully navigated this hurdle in what is still a young editorial career.
I wonder what other surprises I have in a store ...
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If you are both an editor and a published writer, are you more bothered when you read a negative review regarding your editorial vision (i.e. your authors' works) or your own authorial work?
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But while I remained a fan of Robert E. Howard and would continue seeking out his other short fiction (still do) from here I quickly made the jump to reading fantasy novels (and eventually science fiction novel). So in those all-important adolescent years, when we suck this stuff down like crack and our imagination knows no bounds, the speculative story structures I was feeding into my brain were primarily those of novels.
So it's no surprise that when I realized I wanted to write this stuff I was basically thinking in terms of novels. Then in 2000 I attended the Odyssey Fantasy & Science Fiction Writing Workshop, and learned a lot about both writing and editing speculative fiction, particularly in the shorter forms. My experiences here gave me the skills necessary to eventually work at Realms of Fantasy. And after Odyssey, years before I started working at RoF, I tried my hand at writing short fiction for a while.
I wasn't terribly successful. I received some personal rejections, some "try us again" letters, but didn't make sales. Even my sale with Interzone is set in a world that I want to write novels in down the road, and at 14,400 words, it's not exactly short. The bottom line is that things weren't "clicking" when I tried to write shorter stories. I'm comfortable with writing novels. On an instinctual level I understand them. It comes from devouring so many when I was younger. I'm not saying I can write a perfect novel at the drop of a hat, but I can say the longer form is the one I'm naturally comfortable with. Some people say they can't come up with ideas for a novel. That has never been a problem for me. Coming up with quality ideas for shorter fiction (or executing those ideas) was.
Then came Realms of Fantasy. A whim made me go after this gig of assistant editor, and the coolest editor in the world (aka Shawna McCarthy) gave me a shot. While I was pretty lousy at writing shorter fiction, it turned out I was pretty good working with it as an editor. But along the way something strange happened. I knew that working with all this slush would help me as a writer. And I'm right. It has.
But over the past two months or so, something has clicked. I've been working at Realms for 2+ years, meaning I've read a lot of stories. I've also taken a greater interest in the other short spec markets. And now I'm reading all these back issues to Realms, meaning in addition to everything else I'm getting a steady diet of top-flight short fantasy.
And I'm starting to understand to the shorter form on an instinctual level. I like to think this means it's beginning to become coded into my writerly DNA. :) Regardless, it means the ideas I'm coming up with in this form are better, and I'm starting to get a better idea about how to execute (i.e. write) this stuff.
Meanwhile I've been working on this Arthur novel for a while, and I'm pleased with how it's coming. Then a couple of weeks ago I had this short story idea ("Songs of Dreaming Stars") explode into my head. It wouldn't leave me alone, so I actually put aside the novel to work on it. Despite that it was YA and a fairy tale (neither of which are my normal playgrounds), and despite the fact that it was written from the pov of a girl of 13, it came naturally to me. Shorter stuff never comes naturally to me. No matter how much work this first draft ends up needing, even it doesn't sell, this is an important development for me as a writer. An encouraging one too.
So I finished the first draft on Saturday, went over it with a critical eye on Sunday, and after trimming 500 words, I posted it on a forum I belong to for
End of story? Not exactly.
Today I came up with another idea for a shorter work ("Heart of Flesh, Heart of Glass"). It's another one I'm really excited about, one I feel I understand on an instinctual level. I want to let this one drift around in my mind for a couple of days, but after that I'm reasonably sure that if I sit down to write this it will also come pretty naturally. Because I'm starting to understand how to write shorter fiction. Long way to go, but I'm starting. Finally.
This is great, but I don't want to let my novel suffer. I have almost 270 pages, and if I leave it alone too long it will stagnate. That's unacceptable. But if I'm finally starting to click with shorter work, it would really behoove me to write a few (or a lot of) pieces, especially when my premiere story is about to be published. I'd like to keep my name out there, not just as an editor but a writer.
So the only answer is to work on both the novel and short stories at once. Easier said than done, but it can be done. I'm not the fastest writer in the world, but I believe there's room for improvement. Now there needs to be. So to you prolific types out there (pro and otherwise), please, chime in. I know there's no secret formula, but if there's anything I need to keep in mind if I want to be prolific, what do you think it is? I've been a steady worker with my writing, this year more than ever, but I need to up my output.
Share a cookie or two. :)
Then I came up with a cool idea. I wanted to provide openings to the stories belonging to my slush survivors that have been published (or will be) in Realms of Fantasy. Rather than talking about the same old stuff, I could do an analysis of sorts for each of these openings, explain what I liked about them. So I contacted all 14 of my slush survivors (I actually have 15 now, I just haven't posted about this dude yet), and all 14 of these writers were generous enough to grant me permission to use their openings.
So I thought some of you may find it interesting if I posted this essay on my blog. The first few pages of the essay consist of me going into a lot of standard stuff about the submissions process and such. Skip or read it as you please (note: contains lots of observational humor you may appreciate). Then I get into the analysis of the openings. That part a lot more of you may find interesting.
Thanks to all my slush survivors. You are all brilliant and generous. And without further
But after two years of doing this, of seeing stories by some of our automatic passes intent on carving out careers for themselves, it struck me today how much some of these writers have grown. I think about some of their work from two years back vs. now and there's no comparison. These writers are also improving.
It's no big secret, I guess, but I suppose with our automatic passes I never paid as much attention regarding their improvement. They'd already reached the ROF mountaintop, so to speak. But after two years I can't help but notice how much of some of our contributors have improved at the short story craft.
Kudos to our contributors.
And if you're not experiencing these extremes ...what's your secret?
--Writing: How many of those in the Writing Kingdom aspire to write "one day," but never get around to it? Already we've sliced off a major section of competition, and in the Writing Kingdom these may be the weakest creatures of all. They're not even writing, but talking about writing. In terms of the animal kingdom these folks are moaning about hunger instead of hunting.
--Submitting: How many of those in the Writing Kingdom write but won't send their works out for publication? It's one thing to hold off on sending something out because it needs more polish or another draft, and it's something else entirely to write piece after piece and never send any of them out for consideration. If you're comfortable with writing just for yourself, great. But otherwise you're the animal hunting mice in your cave while the entire spoils of the Galapagos Islands are beckoning beyond your proverbial door (are there mice on the Galapagos Islands? Shrug. I'd guess no. But you see my point)
--Formatting: Let's use cavemen to illustrate some points, because cavemen are funny. "Man next door has fire. Me no need fire. Me know what me doing." Translation: "I don't need to read the submission guidelines. I know what I'm doing." These are the writers who fail to put their stories in the proper fonts, fail to enclose their SAE, or stamps, or IRCs, send fantasy stories to science fiction markets, send poetry to markets that publish strictly fiction, etc. If there are better methods of hunting/gathering you can easily learn, use them.
--Thin Skin: "Me didn't catch anything today. Hunting too hard. Me would rather starve." Too many writers new to the game expect to be published right from the beginning. It happens to a few, sure (lucky bastards). But most of us must claw and scrap for every inch of progress. Instead of the Galapagos Islands it's more like hunting in the desert, I think. A lot of people may give up and choose dehydration after one or a few rejections. Whether they're the smart ones is another conversation. :)
--Frustration: "No matter how many times me throw this spear me have bad aim. Me never catch anything. Me give up." Practice, practice, practice.
--The Slaying of Goliath: "Me killed a boar! Me killed a boar! Me never hunting again. From now on me fishing." For some people getting published once and slaying your Goliath is enough. Congrats on your publication, but all this proves is that you can successfully hunt. But you must keep hunting to survive in the vicious and unforgiving Writing Kingdom.
--Overwhelmed: "How me ever catch anything? All them other good hunters catching all them animals. Leave nothing for me." Stop worrying about available slots in magazines and competing with other writers. Your only competition is you. If you write a good enough story that suits the editor's needs for his or her magazine, you'll get your sale.
--Laziness: "Me no feel like hunting today." Hmm. What could I ever mean by this one?
So. Are these exact parallels to animal kingdom? Certainly not! But the Writing Kingdom does have its own set of rules for successful survival. By successful, I mean publication since that is what most writers aspire to (and should). If I kept thinking about it I'm sure I could come up with other examples. But I think I've made my point. The fittest writers will "survive." Of course, if others reading this entry want to throw out additional examples, please have at it!
Does this strike anyone else as strange? I know I'm not the only one to have experienced this.
My gratitude runs just as deep toward Andy Cox, the publisher/editor of Interzone. He listens to the advice and opinions of his editorial crew, but ultimately he makes the call on what stories to put into his magazine. And he made that call on my yarn, deciding "this is good enough for Interzone." For an author, having an editor come to this decision for the first time is very validating. The fact that this comes with a quality venue such as Interzone just makes this a super-happy bonus.
But even so ...with each new issue, I can't help but hope "maybe this time." Perfectly understandable, I think. And each time it doesn't happen, I would simply go back to my writing and editing. This really is the best medicine for any sort of lurking impatience, finding satisfaction in the moment as opposed to worrying about the future.
But there was always that tinny tiny voice in the back of my head, saying, "But still ..."
Well it turns out that voice knows absolute jack. It's a fool, a moron, a cretin. I couldn't be happier that I've been waiting. Really. Why? Well, late last week, for no good reason at all, I was thinking about this story ("Feelings of the Flesh"), about one scene in particular. I hadn't thought about the story in a while, and it had been many good long months since I actually bothered to look it over.
And yet, somehow, all these months later, during an idle moment of reflection, I caught a plot hole! Awful. Horrifying. Terrible. And quite frankly unacceptable. It was actually a big plot hole IMO. But it was rather easy to fix. It involved substituting one word for another. That's it. And yet, had I left this word unchanged, it most definitely would've undermined a big part of my ending. So I now have an entirely new respect for Mark Twain's phrase: The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and the lightning bug.
Honestly, though, I'm just amazed I caught the problem. I mean, it was one word that I hadn't looked at in months. Months! The problem must have been deeply rooted in my subconscious, slowly working its way to the surface. And if not for this wait I never would've caught this problem. So sometimes waiting really is a good thing.
Thankfully, Jetse was nice enough to forward the tweaked version along to Andy, so no harm done. But ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I present to you a case where the author really and truly is happy to have waited. Thank you, Interzone. You guys rock!
Oh. And to any that are curious, the word in question that would've wreaked such havoc with my tale is none other than "testicle-shriveling."
Go figure. :)
The point is, for all you fledgling writers out there, you have to keep submitting. There is a good chance that if you refine your writing skills to a publishable level there will always be that one editor who doesn't get/connect with your stuff, and your stories will be rejected no matter how brilliant they are, and no matter where else you've been published. But, and this is the most important part, one rejection from a market tells you absolutely nothing. You have to keep submitting, over and again. Some of these markets will keep sending you standard rejection letters. It doesn't mean you should stop submitting to these places, but if you've received a dozen standard rejections in a row, now you can safely assume this will be a tough market to crack. Meanwhile, if by your second rejection from a good market the editor is telling you "try us again," well, your chances of cracking this market are obviously better. But you'd never learn this by giving up after one rejection.
There are many authors able to give more examples than I ever could, but I'll share my lone best example. The first time I submitted to Interzone I received a short but pleasant email rejection from Andy Cox telling me try again. The next time I submitted to them, Jetse de Vries, one of the assistant editors there, put me through two strenuous (and worthwhile!) rewrites. Then Andy went on to accept my story, which will mark my first publication. You can't give up after that first rejection (although speaking as an editor I wish certain regular submitters would).
Anyone else want to share their stories for the newbies reading my blog? Maybe you had a market that proved very receptive to your writing early on. Or maybe there was that one market that was/is an SOB to make any progress with, no matter how far along in your career you are. And what about that one where the persistence did pay off? Come share so the newbies can take heart!
